2012年4月19日星期四

Hunters wont be able to compete in pvp.

Against hybrids that do more damage and have healing spells they can cast on themselves in a pvp setting. Druids/shamans/priests/death knights/warriors outright own us if we are caught by ourselves and them as the opponents. Hunters need a decent self heal available to MM specc, SV specc, and BM specc, yes I know about spirit mend, not everyone has a spirit beast, and they're not exactly falling out of the sky.
MM spec has Chimera shot which heals for 5% of the damage it does. Not a great deal I guess but it's something.
SV is the one that really misses out. In PvP I know that there is a good chance I will die as soon as I get dots on me (during combat). I try to make sure I kill them before I die so I can get out of combat and eat. Sometimes works, usually fails lol
At this point I'm going to raid with my hunter in Cata, but for PvP I'm probably just going to play my mage. I suspect they're just afraid of making hunters OP for the rated BGs since hunters have notoriously been good in BGs, but as things stand right now, with even gear and skill, the person playing the hunter is going to lose against the majority of classes they go up against.

As mentioned in another topic the fact that we can't cleanse any DoTs is a major shortfall of the hunter class. I also think it's highly ironic that we have a whole talent tree called "Survival" but no way to prevent or cure poisons.

With lackluster aimed shot damage, and minimal self heals, we have neither a strong offense nor defense, so I am afraid that PvP as a hunter is going to be somewhat frustrating until they give us some more buffs.
I'm just going to wait and see how things are at 85.

Even if it's harder to compete, I will still try.

And also level a cute little gnome rogue with pink hair just for fun :)
At this point I'm going to raid with my hunter in Cata, but for PvP I'm probably just going to play my mage. I suspect they're just afraid of making hunters OP for the rated BGs since hunters have notoriously been good in BGs, but as things stand right now, with even gear and skill, the person playing the hunter is going to lose against the majority of classes they go up against.

As mentioned in another topic the fact that we can't cleanse any DoTs is a major shortfall of the hunter class. I also think it's highly ironic that we have a whole talent tree called "Survival" but no way to prevent or cure poisons.

With lackluster aimed shot damage, and minimal self heals, we have neither a strong offense nor defense, so I am afraid that PvP as a hunter is going to be somewhat frustrating until they give us some more buffs.


And this is how I feel, we have the worst defense, and everyone has much much higher burst potential than we do, not to mention our mortal strike is the worst of all the dps classes. I'm going to play my hunter, but sucks how we are the punching bag for Cataclysm.
I'll keep chuggin. Both PvP and PvE... partially because I'm a masochist... I mean... I live in Germany and I'm willing to wake up at 1 in the morning to raid or do scheduled premades. >>


Still, once the devs see how poorly we're represented (even worse than ever before, probably) they'll give us some much-needed buffs.


I <3 my MM and I'll never give up on it. :D
Am I the only Hunter not finding a problem in PvP?
I was expecting you to say : hunters won't be able to compete in pvp cuz of Terribad players like me. I'm havin no problem right now cuz I know how to adapt...
Am I the only Hunter not finding a problem in PvP?

Alterac Valley is not PvP, friend.

Being able to top the HK charts and roll over PUGs in BGs with your guild team of mages and paladins doesn't mean anything either.
Alterac Valley is not PvP, friend.
Being able to top the HK charts and roll over PUGs in BGs with your guild team of mages and paladins doesn't mean anything either.


Actually, I do in pugs, my guild doesn't PvP at all, I just know how to adapt and play the game. If you know what you are doing you can PvP, this game is not hard at all it's just unfair and we drew the smallest straw when it comes to 4.0.1 PvP, but that doesn't mean we cannot compete, it just means you have to sit down and learn how to play again and not expect to pop all your cool downs and kill something instantly.
I forsee a Bandet come back in Season 9 with Survival
Alterac Valley is not PvP, friend.
Being able to top the HK charts and roll over PUGs in BGs with your guild team of mages and paladins doesn't mean anything either.


Actually, I do in pugs, my guild doesn't PvP at all, I just know how to adapt and play the game. If you know what you are doing you can PvP, this game is not hard at all it's just unfair and we drew the smallest straw when it comes to 4.0.1 PvP, but that doesn't mean we cannot compete, it just means you have to sit down and learn how to play again and not expect to pop all your cool downs and kill something instantly.


Funny you said that, because all other classes are popping their cooldowns and killing things instantly.
Honestly, i'm fine with having low self-healing, as long our DPS output and CC capabilitys would justify ourlack of survivabillity, similar to rogues for example. At the moment, its just not the case, we have neither.

Also hybrids healing really need to be toned down, a shadow priest or an ele shaman that can top himself in 2-3 heals is retarded, either that or they really need to increase the mana cost of healing spells of non-healing specs.

Currently Ele Shamans, Boomkins and Spriests are one-man-armys.


Pretty much, and hunters have none of that strong personal utility to speak of.
I believe that aspect of the fox will help a ton but it doesn't change the fact that any class with a heal can out heal my dps.
Everything is just broken right now, hybrids won't be able to do the same amount of healing right now as they do in cata. Sub rogues with recuperate are pretty OP, but everything else will be manageable. If a hybrid tries to outheal your dps in cata, they'll run OOM pretty quickly.
Am I the only Hunter not finding a problem in PvP?

I am not either.

BM + Spirit beast.
Am I the only Hunter not finding a problem in PvP?

I am not either.

BM + Spirit beast.


You probably haven't fought anyone good, anyone smart knows how to not die from that.
Am I the only Hunter not finding a problem in PvP?

I am not either.

BM + Spirit beast.


try playing opponents that were rated above 2200 in arena, the ones that are smart and use full keybinds, then come back and tell me how good spirit mend +BM is in pvp.
Am I the only Hunter not finding a problem in PvP?

I am not either.

BM + Spirit beast.


try playing opponents that were rated above 2200 in arena, the ones that are smart and use full keybinds, then come back and tell me how good spirit mend +BM is in pvp.


Thank you

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